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Alright guys, today I am with Jeremy onion, of course with fit for function and dead Dan med vez with ATP and in motion. Today we're going to talk a little bit about how we coordinate a little bit of our care together when we're working with clients that are doing both physical therapy and performance training, and then probably dive into some of the things that Dan does with his clients. He's got all kinds of cool things happen, and so excited to dive into that. Dan, before we get going, you want to introduce yourself. Yeah, guys, my name is Dan madness. I'm a certified personal trainer, a coach at ATP for just over 10 years now. Been with it since it started. And then again, I'm with emotion coach teach classes over there. And I'm also the program coordinator. So we've been with them since, obviously, the beginning. So they've been open for six years now.
Unknown Speaker 0:52
How's that work kind of your, how you divide your time in between ATP and in motion, How's that look on on a day to day basis for you. Um, day to day, a lot of my ATP classes and clients that I see are early mornings,
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early afternoons,
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I don't have a total really late night crowd. So kind of in between my downtimes I kind of worked on a schedule that kind of worked well with me and in motion. So kind of plugging myself into what teaches what classes I'm able to teach at certain times. Gotcha. And then again, like I said, I have some time in the in late afternoons, you know where I can try to get some stuff done within motion. If I have to like set I do coordination for them. So I might have to do some stuff on the computer. Meet with some clients run some assessments.
Unknown Speaker 1:47
But it's been working out pretty great. You and Jeremy both on that early morning crowd. Yes, I see and see this guy come in Brighton, right in early in the morning. Trade crazy. Yeah, I'm on like zero sleep right now. So that's even more, even more crazy. But anyway. So we work with you a lot on the personal training kind of client side who, who is your ideal clients? And then we'll kind of dive into kind of some of the things we do together.
Unknown Speaker 2:15
Oh, an ideal client, man. I don't know if I really have an ideal client. But yeah,
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I don't know, you know, I've been I've been doing this for 10 years, it's not a long time. But within that time, I've really seen a lot. And I've dealt with a lot of type of different types of clientele, again, with this relationship with emotion and just adverse clients that we see. And
Unknown Speaker 2:43
I just think that has helped me not have to just pick and choose who I'd want to see. That makes any sense. I'm up for a challenge. You know, I like helping people. And I love seeing change in the progress. So that's obviously my favorite. I mean, elite athletes are, you know, that would be fun. But I don't know, I like seeing this improvement. Quickly, you know, things change fast. So
Unknown Speaker 3:14
yeah, little incremental steps. And sometimes it's nice to have someone who you start from a little bit more basic,
Unknown Speaker 3:23
more basic functions. Those are good. It is, like I said, it's fun to just see someone get better. Yeah, it really needs to change, versus that someone that's really just doing it, just to maybe look good. You know, when you say you like a challenge, what do you mean by that?
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Um,
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I guess that is a good question.
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I like to my mind, keep working and run and I just don't want to keep doing the same old, same old with that maybe the same type of clients, you know, let's do this, this and this, I have a system that I kind of follow on a plan. But I like I said, I'd like to see someone that maybe really needs help in a certain area that really lacks some strength or balance there. And I just like, I see a challenge in that like really trying to focus in and get better because people get, um,
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I know they get upset with themselves. And you know, I can't do this, you know, this things and maybe other guys may walk away from that. And I like to keep doing it. And so I see some improvements and change.
Unknown Speaker 4:31
Yeah. What you said you have a plan or a system that you follow. Do you want to dive into that a little bit?
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Sure.
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Okay, well, I had a background, I did some stuff at IMG Academy and I kind of really learned
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different styles and different ways to train different types of people and I kind of use that
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philosophy. I'm always I always start out with a dynamic warmup and I'll get to why
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kinda do that later, I kind of get to that and some recovery as well. But I like to do a really consistent dynamic warm up with all my clients that they can really just say coming on in the gym and do on their own, or something they may be able to do at home, if they're not with me, again, for, say, some active recovery at home. But I do a really good thorough dynamic warm up that works on you know, balance as well, it's just a movement, get the heart rate up a little bit. And then what I like to do is I like to go right to some balance, you know, while we're warmed up and got some blood flowing, I like to go to some balance work and then focus on again, it depends on the client, private client or class, but depends on what we're doing. But I get to some balance work. And then from there, I get to some movement, work some more movement, I like to get that heart rate up, get really warm, make sure that body is hot, I just feel when that body is hot, that's when the most change occurs and happens. And right after that movement, then I'd like to get to some strength. So that's my focus. So well dynamic, warm up some movement, balance and strength. And I can really just
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use that type of method with everybody. And they just plug in go from there. And what I need to really focus on are
Unknown Speaker 6:19
not so much maybe that day, but that's what I like to use, what most people will come to you looking for strength, cardiovascular endurance would, what are their goals? A lot of the times, so I'm getting a lot of strength, I have some older population to that I work with and you know, just some bone density, you know, they go to the doctor, and I gotta get my gotta keep my bones strong. And, you know, that's just something I think.
Unknown Speaker 6:51
Just a lot of people may not have that education, or they, you know, back in the day, they said, Oh, I can't lift weights, you know, that's just not good for women, or ladies. They think they're gonna get real big and bulky. But, you know, weightlifting, cardiovascular is is good, you know, people just, they want to make sure their hearts healthy, and they still are feeling that getting winded.
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There was one other thing, what was the question again? What do you say? What do they call it? What was their goals? Yeah, so I say strength. And then I do have some clients that come with me, you know, post surgeries, and just want to keep things stronger, make make sure they're, you know, not lacking limitations or mobility. I will see people obviously, before that happens as well.
Unknown Speaker 7:38
And that's kind of where you guys come in to a little bit.
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Kind of leads into some of the other sets that we were talking about, how do we go back and forth? And how do we collaborate? And I mean, I think that's a good thing to talk about, you know, just in terms of, you know, cuz we, obviously, Nick and I, we do our own assessment and things like that.
Unknown Speaker 8:02
And, you know, if they have a specific problem, but how does it really and go back and forth, you know, because I know you've sent me a few people to kind of look at it and things like that, and I think it's gone really well. And we can kind of communicate back and forth, which is great.
Unknown Speaker 8:21
So you want to dive into that Netflix, now have some of the back and forth guests. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think that's something that that makes kind of what we do so effective is that we can kind of dive into the the pain side and kind of that detailed stuff. And then the training, strength, mobility, balance, all that kind of stuff. They're hitting that on a regular basis with you, Dan, so it's really an awesome combo. How have you seen that? on your end, Dan, like, you and I've been? Well, how many years? Is it now? I don't even know. 343? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 8:57
And then of course, Jeremy's been there a lot regular like recently as you guys been diving in. So what does that relationship look like from your end? What are the pros? What are the things that are useful? And what are things that not just us but kind of this? You know, I think it's right, we have our own relationship. But this balance of kind of fitness versus rehab and kind of blending those worlds together. I think that's important across the spectrum of all trainers and rehab pros. So maybe what are the things that have gone really well with this relationship that we've had? And then let's also talk about things that are maybe a challenge or things we need to keep working on.
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I've absolutely loved
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this relationship Haven't you guys inside our facility? I mean, I couldn't see going back the other way have not having you guys here honestly, um, you know, we get clients that come in, like you said, they may have pain of the day or, or they did something over the weekend or
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you
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know us as a certified professional, I can only do so much, I only know so much with pain. So their relationship to be able to send them right to you guys and really pinpoint what's going on. And then what I love the most is that detailed what I get with you guys, you know, you've sent me emails with links to watch videos and do this with your clients stay away from this, it just really helped take out any type of guesswork of what should I do? What should I stay away from type of thing. And then my clients have just, you know, said nothing but nice things to say about fit for function and walk out satisfied every time saying, Man, I cannot believe how much that helped. Or I can't believe this is what's causing my pain. Because you know, everybody just goes right to the pain sore, so it hurts here.
Unknown Speaker 10:52
So that relationship is worked amazing for me. Again, taking the guesswork out of everything. Yeah. How about your site? Jeremy, what are some of the things you're seeing? Again, this system is, I guess, relatively new for you being in the gym, so to speak.
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What are the things you're seeing on your side,
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that's really great. Because we're, wherever the person needs help with, you know, we, you and I can only do so much, Nick, we have a finite time to work with them. And our goal, you know, is really to help them get back to doing the things that they love to do. So whether it mostly is pain that they come in,
Unknown Speaker 11:41
talking about and wanting help with, and we think as a rehab profession, are really good at identifying that pain. And but we see, you know, somewhat of drop off, I think when the pain starts to come down, but you and I know that there are still things to work on. And I think that that's probably the greatest thing about this relationship is because if they're working with Dan,
Unknown Speaker 12:17
they can continue to do that stuff. And with you know, just a maybe a little input or a little, you know, tweak here there,
Unknown Speaker 12:26
it can really not only accelerate their, you know, their rehab potential, but also their, you know, their fitness bill. So if it, you know, if we, if we have two minds working together here and two, you know, kind of the collaboration, then that drop off kind of seems to go away in my mind, because they are then, you know, just just continuing and working with Dan on some of the higher level things that maybe they wouldn't have otherwise. And I think that's really good in a rehab perspective as well. Because,
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you know, maybe that the occurrence rate is the reoccurrence rate isn't so high, I think that's been a really good benefit to it. And, and just like the the personal relationships that we have, you know, stop in and, you know, Dan in the morning, hey, you know, maybe XYZ I just saw, you know, this patient, and they're doing really well. But we want to start to progress some of this and you know, that he may have really great ideas to do that. And, and I trust him to do that to just, you know, get to the next level. Yeah, that's been my favorite part over the years, like, let's just say you identify that they need glute strengthening or whatever. So they leave our office and you give them a couple of exercises. But let's be realistic, right, you do those exercises for a couple of days. And then you're bored, right? Because you're like, I'm doing the same thing. I'm doing three sets of 10 or whatever. But when you go, Hey, Dan, this client needs hip hip extension, strength and work on a little flexibility here. Now he can get creative with the programming, they're doing different things all the time that the client sees that progression.
Unknown Speaker 14:19
And then, like, they just do what they do best. And building in that that training. And it's just, I think the consistency of training. And then like you're saying, Jeremy that, that next level of not only are they now working on their pain, but they're starting to see those functional improvements for strengths getting better and endurance is getting better. And that kind of stuff. So that's been that's been awesome on our side as far as as far as our relationships been over the years. But yeah, I think that you know, if someone comes in and they do have pain, you know, they they may have more of more of an inhibit inhibition of strength rather than an actual
Unknown Speaker 15:00
weakness of strength. So it's, it's really good because you know the thing, the exercises that you and I give them, Nick, maybe more more to facilitate that muscle action. And, you know, they see that we see some great improvements. But like you said, there, it's going to become too easy in a matter of a week or two. And you know, to have that constant update, and that constant progression is really the most beneficial thing. So you know, the things that I've given them maybe irrelevant in a week or two, and when they see Dan, later in the week, they're like, hey, maybe it's too easy. And you know, you can progress it a little bit more rapidly. Yeah. And to that point, like, a lot of times the stuff we're giving them is about pain, right? I'm gonna give them a release technique to get out of pain or whatever. And then Dan's working on all those things that may have caused that pain in the first place.
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So yeah.
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What are your What are your thoughts on that? Dan?
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Like I said, before, you know, this, the relationships, it's amazing. Again, it takes out all this guesswork us as trainers here at ATP. And just again, having that quick access to be able to even just pick your brains a little bit on Hey, I got a client this, this is happening, I you know, they need to see you.
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It's just been a wonderful, like I said, I couldn't go I couldn't see it any other way, have not, haven't
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you guys on site, or some type of physical therapist, like on site to actually let us know what's going on versus sending them somewhere else trying to make an appointment and
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just be on hold right away to you guys, or right away, we'll see somebody if it's not the day, it's within the week, or the next day, very quick.
Unknown Speaker 16:51
I think that's really important too, because a lot a lot of times, you know, or sometimes might come in and you know, we assess them, maybe they they have a little something here and there. But, you know, maybe, maybe, you know, we can get that back to Daniel and say, hey, you know, do this, try this for a little bit. And, and then, you know, if it continues, and obviously, we might need a little bit more thorough examination of it, but that quick input may help them from, you know, going down that trail to begin with.
Unknown Speaker 17:28
For sure, right, the avoiding the pain medications and all the crazy cycle that comes afterwards, if you can't troubleshoot that stuff upfront is, yeah, it's a whole different beast, then. That's what,
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what then are some of the the challenge is
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from Dan, from your side, working with a client that's in pain, what are some of the challenges? And, you know, again, we got, I think we got a pretty good relationship, we're doing a good thing, but there's certainly always things to improve. And then,
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you know, maybe we can talk about other things that are.
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Yeah.
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So if a client, you know, they're in some pain, or I know, we need to work through something, and it's not obviously, hurt them further, you know, as long as it's not exceeding, you know, a pain threshold that it is unsafe,
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but always work in other things, too. Yeah, if you got a bum knee, hurt knee, yeah, we're gonna obviously focus on exercises for the knee. But we'll also do other things, too, to make sure that you're feeling good and strong everywhere else, not just, we're just going to focus on my knee today, I'm not really going to feel like I got a good workout in kind of feels like a PT session, I make sure that we're still hitting everything, you know, the best that I can and obviously up to the client if they're able to do certain things, but not just focusing on that injured, area of pain, if that makes any sense.
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Yeah, how do you go about working around.
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So I got a client that
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I can use as an example that just had some a knee replacement done. I have seen her up to her surgery. So up to her surgery, we did, you know, strengthening on areas that we need to focus on. Had her surgery recovered amazingly, which I wasn't surprised. I mean, we did all the things that we needed to do and I feel if you go in there, strong, you'll leave there strong. So came back to me and obviously we there's things that we can't do yet, obviously, but we still focus on things, we're gonna be some balance, still some strength, but we're also you know, upper body pushing and pulling and we still got to rotate, and we still got to get your heart rate up. So we'll do things on the bike or a rower just you know, keeping it safe. But doing things that still keeping challenging here, keep the heart rate up
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and think
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On Great, yeah, I think she's happy with how things are turning out. And
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I see improvements. Yeah, it goes back to what we were talking about before. Having having that base and for this specific example, and having that base strength is really great, you know, and they build up and work up to surgery in this instance, and come in, and you and I do what we do best Nick. And, you know, obviously, our goal was to get their impairments down,
Unknown Speaker 20:37
to get them back to their functioning, but it's so great to have that, that that relationship to, you know, say, Hey, you have a lot, a lot of time to work on all of this stuff. So I think that's really good. But I like what you're saying then that, you know, it's, this is
Unknown Speaker 20:55
something that we're all you know, we're only focusing on a new day, they have all these other goals, too. And cardiovascular fitness, upper upper upper body strength, which is so important. So I think that's really good.
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You know, how do you
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how
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how do you go about like, saying, hey, maybe this is too much, or like, what were the some of the signs like?
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So if they're not able to do, again,
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an exercise, you know, full range of motion or lacking stability in other areas? I mean, not, I'm not afraid to, you know, let them know, hey, that I see this is happening, what struck the weight, or, you know, I see this is happening, let's work more on this. I guess that's type of product part of that, challenge them into, you know, just being able to spot and see things and not being afraid to change it on the spot, you know, not letting somebody just go through something, just to go through it just to maybe not to hurt their feelings, but I'm not frightened, I'll let you know, Hey, what's up doing this? Let's try it this way. Let's do this. Let's do that. Let's take some way away, or
Unknown Speaker 22:12
the challenge in progress or regress, you know, what do you got to do in that situation?
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Modify.
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And when
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I say mean, sometimes it's hard to modify, specific, sometimes it's very difficult. And those are the ones that it's like, huh, give me a second. Think and think about, but that's the only thing to just be able to
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let me think Hang on a second. Don't let's not abandon this, let's think of what we're really trying to accomplish. And is there another way?
Unknown Speaker 22:45
I think that's probably the best, the best example because, you know, you're there, you can see them, you know, you have your trained eyes there. So and, you know, vast knowledge of exercise, too. So it's,
Unknown Speaker 23:02
you know, it's something that you can switch pretty quickly to prevent some of the further things, you know, down the road, too.
Unknown Speaker 23:12
But, yeah, again, going back to that relationship aspect of it, I think that's probably the one of the greatest things.
Unknown Speaker 23:19
Yeah, you kind of hinted at something Dan saying, you know, we're gonna continue to work on other things. And
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I think that's so overlooked, when, like somebody has, let's use your example of a total knee, you know, we get so focused on that knee, right, like, what's the rehab look like for that knee? And, and I think we're guilty of it as rehab pros, because that's what they're there for, right? But you have the ability to just, you're training them, right, they're there for their fitness goals. And from a healing standpoint, the immune effects of how the body works, and the nervous system effects and stress, and how all of that plays into healing of that knee. The benefits that they're getting from that whole body workout from you is just it's, I think it's underappreciated. And I actually just sent Jeremy and Karen Austin, an article looking at delayed onset soreness and how it's more about the neuro immune system than it is muscle damage and looking at stress and inflammation and anxiety and depression and inflammation and how exercise counters that and I think in the next, let's say, 10 years, that we're going to appreciate how the system responds to that whole body exercise even even more than we do today. And I think
Unknown Speaker 24:36
you're gonna see more rehab plans look more like what we're doing anyway, then then you do, we're we're going to focus more on how that whole body's doing and not necessarily, you know, how's your knee
Unknown Speaker 24:48
and I think you have the ability to just dive in on that. Right. And,
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again, I just think it's an underappreciated aspect of what happens with a training session.
Unknown Speaker 25:00
Yeah, I think so too, you know, just from what you're saying, and we have to look at everyone as a whole, you know? And yeah, Nick and I like, like you're saying, if they come in with a specific knee pain, we sometimes we get a little myopic about it. But yeah, you're right, we have to think about how that whole body responds. And and, you know, exercise is the best medicine, you know. So, yeah, Dan, Dan is in a very unique position to, to see all of that and incorporate all of that, too.
Unknown Speaker 25:39
So, yeah, I think that's great. You're, you're able to do that. And program around it to
Unknown Speaker 25:48
Dan, you do a little bit of group and then you do also do like one on ones, right? You do personal training, and then in a lot more group with with the emotion side, I think, and I think you guys do some small group with ATP as well, right? Yeah, do some small group classes in the mornings by ATP? And then usually private training after that, and then some group sessions for emotion? Again, during the day? Yes. Yeah. How does that adjustment that that,
Unknown Speaker 26:14
you know, making those changes on the fly? How does that happen for you, group versus individual, and maybe what are some of the pros and cons between those.
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Um, so group,
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I still kind of try to take an individual approach to it. I mean, obviously, I have a plan, I want everyone to do it. To do this. If someone's having trouble doing it, again, it's just a modification on spots.
Unknown Speaker 26:41
They may just not do it, like everybody else is doing it. And I haven't had anybody. You know, obviously, everyone's wants to do it the way I wanted it to, but, you know, I don't get any pushback on when I try and modify a regression exercise to fit that individual or to make it challenging the individual, you know, there's, there's times where they may be able to do a little bit something more.
Unknown Speaker 27:05
But if I want to see something, and maybe I need to change an exercise, like if everybody's having troubles with it,
Unknown Speaker 27:12
for that day, or whatever, I may just have to scratch that whole exercise and do it a different way for the whole group. So I guess it depends, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 27:22
Yeah, I don't, in, back in back in when I was in college, I did some group exercise stuff. And
Unknown Speaker 27:29
I probably wasn't even, it wasn't on my mind as much then. But now, I think that would be such a hard, a hard thing to figure out how to not only program for a group, but then make those adjustments. So I'm always kind of in awe of how coaches pull it off. Because it's,
Unknown Speaker 27:44
it's a different beast, you know, it's, yeah, it is. And it's just, you know, work in the room, just making sure you, you know, your clients, your eyes are on them, and, and you're just watching them the best that you can. And if you see something, again, just not being afraid to let that person know, this is what I'm seeing and try it this way
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to speaking up to them, and they appreciate it. They do. Yeah, how does programming teams group, like with your ATP groups? Group? How do you go about doing that? Like, What's your philosophy year? What do you try to hit? So so like I said, um, you know, I'm always doing you know, we do it seems different style warm up.
Unknown Speaker 28:28
The dynamic warm up, balance, you know, usually stays the same versus group or
Unknown Speaker 28:37
private? Well, when it comes down to, you know, the exercises a lot, it depends on my group classes, I'm really trying to focus on a full body whole body type of approach. Versus if I'm seeing an individual client, it's what are what's our focus, you know, what are their needs, I can still take the same format, and just apply it to them maybe a little bit differently. individualized, so it's still that same format that I use, like I said, it's just, alright, this is my class, we all need to work on
Unknown Speaker 29:12
this, this, this, this is my private client, we still need to focus on the same things. Let's just focus on doing it for them. So I may choose different exercises. But you know, the, the foundation, the framework, that template is gonna stay the same.
Unknown Speaker 29:30
And then it comes down to just the nature of group training versus individual training as well.
Unknown Speaker 29:36
That's great. That's great. Yeah. And it comes down to how many times I'm seeing that individual in the week depends on what we need to really get done or accomplished. Versus a class is a couple days a week. So I can say, hey, this day, we're going to focus on this. This days, this stays there. So it allows me to you know, track change things up. But again, that all stays the same my balance movement
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That's our focus. Has that balance always been a priority for you? Or do you think your work within motions kind of emphasize that? Yeah, I think work with emotion. And
Unknown Speaker 30:12
like I said, I go back to a little bit when I did a lot of training at img for athletes. And the focus there on balance was,
Unknown Speaker 30:20
you know, and I've done a lot of youth training to iyc and stuff and your balance, it's the foundation of all movement. So I really feel that should be addressed right away. It gets a body warmed up really nice, you know, you get a lot of stuff firing.
Unknown Speaker 30:36
What kind of things are you doing for your it's called active adult population?
Unknown Speaker 30:43
For balance balance? Yeah. Well, I mean, I agree with you, I think the vestibular system is is underutilized. I think, especially as adults, we're not getting on the floor and rolling and tip it upside down, and all that kind of stuff. And it leads to balance issues and equilibrium problems, which affects the neck and the eyes. And I think it partially, I think you can have a million outcries to that.
Unknown Speaker 31:04
But it's not something you hear about, like,
Unknown Speaker 31:07
I don't know, at scale, you don't hear people doing balance in these big box group fitness classes.
Unknown Speaker 31:13
So I think it's awesome that you're doing that. But what do you mean? What does that mean to you? Like, are we standing on one leg? Are we doing dynamic stuff? What's what's so yeah, obviously, it depends on the fitness level, and where we're at. And that
Unknown Speaker 31:28
way, you can obviously just start stationary feet together and raising one foot and closing our eyes and head turns and stuff like that, just as basic as that, but, but yeah, then we get into the dynamic portion of it, and we may incorporate some balance in our dynamic warm up. And it doesn't just stop at the beginning to, when we get to our strength focus, as well, our movement in in our strength, you know, we're doing exercises to where we still need to balance so that integrated strength, using balance as well with strength, so it plays a I say balance, it's a part of it, but it's, it's a really big part of it, because it's it goes all the way into the workout portion of it. And I think, you know, to clarify that balance can go from all the way down to just standing up out of the chair to your elite athletes who are, you know, jumping over hurdles, and, you know, things like that. So, I think it's a huge continuum, that everyone's gonna go into benefit from, at least in my mind, just in our as a rehab professional, sometimes I get, you know, more focused on the more basic type stuff. So, you know, that's awesome that you're doing balance with, with everyone. And yeah, we've seen some component because even in, like you said, in the strength aspect, if, you know, to increase intensity, sometimes, you know, you might go to one leg and, and that's a, that's gonna require a lot of balance. And
Unknown Speaker 33:04
not only balance, but control as well. So it's awesome. Right? Again, you don't always have to just go heavy, heavy weight, you know, you can also challenge people by some balance.
Unknown Speaker 33:18
Yeah, there's so many different and that just totally slows down everybody. And they really have to control enlightenment, drop the weight. Be surprised, like, oh my gosh, I can't believe my balance. Isn't that good?
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Sometimes,
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you know,
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they know.
Unknown Speaker 33:39
I love that, like, the look on somebody's face when they try balance thing that they think should be easy. And then they just can't you're like, Yeah, that's the other thing they you know, you've made them or something and then oh, I can I get that? Yeah, yeah, I did a YouTube video. I was standing on one leg and doing like vor where you stare at your finger and move. It must have taken 10 takes to not fault like, I just need to film this video.
Unknown Speaker 34:05
Wow, this is this is really hard.
Unknown Speaker 34:08
I was trying to talk. So like nor I've done it, but I don't talk right and then just adding that extra task of talking while I was doing it. It was my wife was filming and she's laughing at me. Like this is terrible. Terrible drill. But yeah, of course. I've been seeing you doing a lot with the blaze pots with Yes. Yeah, the place pods have been great. I just started a shout out to your social media profile. Yeah, I again, we know we've had them here for a little while but I really just started trying to play with them. And they're going great. And again for balanced as well. I mean, that cognitive work, the balance work that dual tasking. That just awareness. It's been it's been great I've been using with a lot of clients. I've also introduced them into our our group classes in motion
Unknown Speaker 35:00
Again, that's a huge part of emotion is just, you know, cognitive work.
Unknown Speaker 35:05
And it's been, it's been fun in the classes, they're always going to join them, it's a little bit different a change. And, again, just that little simple, easy exercises, like saying just a balance exercise where you have to tap a light becomes, oh my gosh, my heart rate is crazy high right now, just from tapping a light with my foot. So we're now starting to get that cardiovascular and, again, early into the training just into the balanced portion of it. That's intriguing. Why do you think the heart rates going up?
Unknown Speaker 35:36
And I there's a lot going on, it's not just standing on one foot, you know, there's a lot of Mind Muscle connections. We're also now moving not just standing. Do you think it's a stress thing? Do you think it's like a sympathetic nervous system thing?
Unknown Speaker 35:52
I wonder what that cognitive influence.
Unknown Speaker 35:58
And again, it's, it's, it's nothing intense. I mean, I just said, like, I have a simple one, I just set for up in a line, just tap one and stand on one foot the whole time. And heart rates are going up just from that little bit of movement standing on one foot. That's super interesting to look at to because there's kind of different settings, right, where you just hit one that lights up. Then there's other one like a different setting with a confounding colors, right? So my lead a red or green, but you have to hit the blue one, right? Something like that. Yeah. So like I said, I like to progress exercises. So we'll start basic, I'll say just, you know, hit the blue light. And there's just one light flashing, and you just hit the blue light. And then we'll progress it to where there's four lights on. And, you know, I'll say either hit the blue light or hit a different color light. But again, now they're seeing multiple colors, but still have to keep focus on what their the action is. Yeah, interesting to see. Heart rate variability, with those two different settings is that cognitive function name, and the fun thing about those things, it creates competition. I mean, I have a guys group that likes for me to exercise, here and there, or at least do some challenges with them. And I was blown out the blue spots, and we've been using them so they know they'd like to compete with them and keep score. But I just wanted to do a basic fun warm up with him one day, and it was really just running around in a circle, go to your lights, hold a plank, for like three to five seconds, and then it's okay, your lights gonna light up again, go to your light.
Unknown Speaker 37:40
Hold your plank. Well, after the first round, they realized that it was keeping score, and all the lights would go out after the first light was tapped. So that little fun basic warm up became a competition. And it really became like the workouts I mean, we were dying. So it really creates some fun competition just by counting some scores. Yes, I was
Unknown Speaker 38:08
probably
Unknown Speaker 38:11
dads out there practicing better I gotta get better.
Unknown Speaker 38:16
Competition will do that. Gotta do that.
Unknown Speaker 38:20
So those have been those have been fun. Yes. Fun tool to use for movement balance. A little bit of strength as well. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't used them yet. I mean, I've seen them on social media that kind of stuff but I haven't I haven't played with them yet. Have you used them Jeremy
Unknown Speaker 38:37
and yeah, getting in the competition myself
Unknown Speaker 38:44
I usually just tell him it's too early so that's why I never get there. Yeah, to really be waking up.
Unknown Speaker 38:53
Well, hey, man, this was fun. Anything else you guys want to cover as we were kind of coming up on that 40 minute mark anything else that you want to
Unknown Speaker 39:00
kind of wrap up with or kind of a key topic that you want to talk about before we finish up?
Unknown Speaker 39:06
Oh, man, a key topic. I just really like to,
Unknown Speaker 39:12
again, elaborate a little bit on the relationship by having like a PT in house and a fitness center if there's ever a way for anybody else to have that opportunity. If it ever came about you know
Unknown Speaker 39:26
jump on it, embrace it, try it out. See how it works for you guys. But over here DTP, hands down love haven't fit haven't fit around.
Unknown Speaker 39:36
It's mutual, because the the collaboration I think is just it just expedites the rehab process. You know, whether it be you came to us first and and we want and you want to keep going or you were seeing Dan first and you had an injury and you want to get back to that. I think just the the turnaround is a lot
Unknown Speaker 40:00
Faster, when you can just come in and get assessed and you know, start treatment right away and get back to that as opposed to, you know, waiting two weeks to getting to see your physician, and then you have to go to a different location, you know, different location and the tag times.
Unknown Speaker 40:20
It's an important factor. And I think that's probably Nick, you mentioned challenges. I think that's probably the biggest challenge for all of us is
Unknown Speaker 40:29
being able to see those clients maybe before they go and see a doctor, and they're subscribed, those meds or that cortisone shots, you know, trying to how can we see that? Yeah, they may have to see a doctor, for sure. Absolutely. They may need to see have X rays, or MRIs or what have you, but being able to maybe see them before, before they get to that stage. So they accidentally don't go down? I don't mean, you really don't have to go down. Yeah, I think.
Unknown Speaker 41:00
And maybe I'm just kind of putting my own thoughts in here. But sometimes I think we're able to see somebody early and eliminate some of that fear. Right? Like, yeah, tweak your back a little bit. And all of a sudden, you're like, Well, I know somebody that had to have back surgery and had to do this and how to do that. And it's really easy to go down that rabbit hole, where, you know, if you see somebody quick and you're like, Ah, look, this isn't that big a deal. You get a moving in the right direction, that pain starting to calm down, all of a sudden, all that fear all that, you know, yeah, the stress that comes along with that starts to get better. And that's good. I also before we wrap up when emphasizes kind of what Jeremy was saying that that mutual side of this relationship and how good that's been seeing clients that that maybe came to us for a problem. And then now seeing them working on fitness goals. And, you know, just seeing the the improvements that they're making on so many other aspects of life and health and movement, past, whatever they came into our door for. That's been awesome on that side, too. So I agree, I think there needs to be more. And I hope that we see this in the future. And I think we are but across the spectrum of rehab and fitness, that those blended worlds in teams working together versus
Unknown Speaker 42:12
there's no way we can we can't offer the training services that you're doing. Because that's not our niche. That's not what our focus is in likewise. Right, you know, there's no reason for you to focus on a specific pain problem. When when that's what we spend all our time doing. So being able to work together is just yeah, it's been so great. Yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 42:34
putting that all together, it brings the best outcomes, honestly, so you know, you're not running around town and doing all that stuff. So I think if that's what people come for, that's what they want. They want to have their either fitness goals and that sort of thing. So I think it just really is the most essential package to have
Unknown Speaker 43:02
get it get it all together. Yeah. Well cool, guys. We'll have to do it again. Soon. We'll we'll pick another topic and dive down into it but that was good.
Unknown Speaker 43:12
All right.
Unknown Speaker 43:15
Hopefully I'll see you guys in person here. Pretty soon we'll get right.
Unknown Speaker 43:19
Duty will say bye.
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